- Did all you guys come from Tucson except for Richard Simms?
- Yeah, Rick's the new guy so he's not from Arizona. We're
all from Arizona.
- So were you guys known as the SuperSuckers back then?
- We were. In Tucson, we formed a band called The Black
Super Suckers which later evolved into The Super Suckers
after we were in Seattle for a while. The whole band grew
up there, all of us went to the same high school, y’ know.
When we had Ron in the band, it was everybody we went to
high school with.
- Which one was that?
- Santa Rita, on the East Side where heavy metal and Camaros
- It seems from what I knew a lot of Tucson bands had a
connection with kind of a country cow-punk thing, and
metal too. Motorhead and all that.
- Yeah. It kind of seemed on the East Side where I grew up
there was only heavy metal. Then as I got older and drove
all the way down town, I noticed there were other kinds of
music in town, too, not just heavy metal. That was good
for me... I think it was. But then it was like the thing
about metal, it was all powerful and you could put it in
your Camaro. And you'd turn it up and you're an idiot
barreling down the highway. With the other Tucson scene
it was kind of too thoughtful, too jingly-jangly and nice
although it was a refreshing change for a while from
metal. I found myself straying back toward the metal
- It sounds like it in “Sacrilicious.”
- It was kind of a rock record...
- ...the song at the end that seemed kind of a nice, easy
way to end it.
- ...it was kind of a goof that turned out to be a nice
little song. We were just goofing around at first. And
then all these good musicians stared showing up and
playing on the thing and turned it into a good song.
- So that was Willie Nelson's sister playing on that one?
- Yeah she plays the piano and the organ on there, and
that's what turned it into something that we had to put on
the record. I was just goofing off, we had extra time and
me and Bolton recorded the song. Just me and him on
acoustic guitars, then Bobbie came in, and we said, "Will
you play on this?" and she did her bit. Then we had this
guy come in and put some bass on there because we were
thinking, "This could use some bass." I played guitar
already on this so I didn't want to play bass. So we got
a guy in there to do that, too, and the next thing you
know it's on the record.
- How did you hook up with Willie Nelson in the first place?
- Well, our manager is pretty good, and he just somehow
wrangled it. We're all just huge Willie Nelson fans.
Awhile back, this label was chattin' us up about maybe
being on their label, and they have Willie on their label.
They're not a rock label at all, they're kind of a jazz
label, and they were interested in us for whatever reason.
Through that connection, Rick had this brilliant idea to
make a Willie a tribute album and donate some of the money
to Farm Aid so there's a purpose, not just blowing smoke
up Willie's ass. They bought it and the next thing you
know, we're recording with the guy. It was great.
- I read about how you got arrested right after that.
- That wasn't great. Me and my girlfriend were out after
that tryin' to celebrate. We were walking down the
street, and we had beers in our hand, and they grab her
and start arresting her because she was kind of smarting
off to them. I said, "why are you arresting her and not
me?" I was carrying a beer, too. They're like, "OK,
smart guy." I'm like, "Wait a minute, it's my birthday,
and I was just recording with Willie Nelson." And they're
like "Yeah, right."
- And this was in Austin, Texas?
- Yeah, on March 16, 1995. I remember it well. It was like
my birthday or somethin'.
- Well, it seems all of the fans are quite pleased, and
you're gaining a lot more fans.
- Yeah, hopefully we don't scare 'em off with this album
being so, I don't know, it's produced better and you know
how kids can turn on ya.
- Oh yeah. They'll think you sold out.
- Yeah, cause we made a record that sounds good.
- Uh huh.
- But you can't win either way. If you keep making the
records that sound the same, you please some people, but
then people start saying you're derivative and "Oh great,
another SuperSuckers record."
- So this one was produced by Paul Leery from the Butthole
- Can you believe it?
- He seems like this big fuck up flake you know. Yet, he
can make a good rock record. I mean he can make good
records on his own, the Buttholes are great. But until I
started listening to his production, I never really
thought, "Wow, they really know what they're doin'."
- So who's idea was it to have him produce the record?
- Oh it was a combination of ours and his. And Rick had
nothing to do with the decision. He was selected after we
had chosen the producer. So, he'll definitely want it
known that he had nothing to do with the selection of the
- Okay, we'll make sure we include that.... So did you guys
already go over to Europe and do the Reading Festival?
- Oh we were supposed to but we got canned.
- Ahh. How'd that happen?
- I don't know. They like to string you along when you're
just kind of an underground band like us. In England,
it's kind of fucked up anyway for bands, especially like
real Rock n' Roll bands cause they just like whatever is
trendy at the time. So they wanted to string us along and
wait, and wait, and wait, till the last minute, and maybe
they'll let us play. And maybe... We just decided we
weren't gonna be treated like that way. So we just said
forget it. You know, either give us a slot or forget it.
And they wouldn't. So basically they told us what they
wanted or didn't want.
- Did they want somebody more Glam-rock?
- I don't know. We're pretty Glam-rock. But we played a
couple other festivals. We played one in Germany called
Pop Comp. We played on in Holland called Lollens
Festival, which was really great. That was the best one.
A bunch of bands: Foo Fighters, Riverdales, I don't know,
Beck and Radiohead. It was a big festival, well, I don't
know how many people were there but they camped out.
There was like ten thousand watchin' us I think."
- So did you do any others or like little bit of touring in
- Yeah, we played about six shows over there just recently.
We got back a couple of days ago.
- So have you toured Europe before?
- Yeah, we have. It was like our third or fourth time over
there. But this was kind of a promotional tour. Our
record is not out there yet. So no one knows why we're
there. They hear that we have a new record out in the
States, and they're all asking us... we didn't bring any.
So they'll have to wait.
- What are your shows like for people who have not seen you
guys perform? What kind of experience is it?
- It's like going to see the tractor pulls or somethin’.
It's like we're gonna drop a car from the King Dome. The
ground pounding, heavy hoggin' SuperSuckers. It's good -
it's like an action movie, you know.
- So do you guys have like, monster trucks come out?
- God, I wish we did. Hopefully, you know we're playin' the
songs right. And hopefully, I'm not falling down too many
times on the stage. But hopefully I do fall down a few
- Oh yeah. I think that's expected.
- Well, is there any other things you'd like to say to all
of the Internet readers.
- If you come to the SuperSuckers show, maybe you could wear
clean underwear cause we're gonna rock the pants off you.
And pay at the door if you can.
- Oh yeah, have the Ramones been one of your favorites
- Oh totally, they changed my life when I was trapped in
heavy metal-ville. I first heard the Ramones, and I was
like, " Oh my God." This has been going on for the last
few years. Fuck! Yeah, the Ramones were big time eye
openers for me way back when.
- So are you looking to be a huge band like filling stadiums
and all that?
- I'm still surprised that we get to make records. I can't
believe someone lets us put our crap onto a tape.
- Yeah, as much as you guys suck.
- It pays for it ya know. When we started the band out, we
were young and having dreams of being rock stars, to
having them crushed, to let's just form a band for the fun
of it and make music with out any hope of ever becoming
popular. Because Eddie, frankly, you can't sing. So uh
as soon we started having that philosophy things started
going really well for us. Now here we are five years
later or so, we're in a rock tour, dude. So I don't know,
it would be nice to see some cash rollin in for the band
of course, but I don't have any expectations really.
- So you're just happy as long as you can keep having fun.
- As long as we can keep the band going and keep recording.
The main goal for me is to be able to look back after,
even looking back now, I look at the fact that we made
three of four records and all these songs. The goal for
me is to look back and go, "Wow, look at all those songs
we wrote and that's great." And then I'll have
accomplished all my goals at a young age, and I'm only 44
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